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Olesniczanin
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:17 am    Post subject: A few words about tagging rules. Reply with quote
I think that we have to lay down some tagging rules since tags are getting a bit messy.

1) In my opinion there is no point in tagging 'human' the picture that is already tagged 'person'. Isn't the same? I think 'person' is enought. We don't need 'human' 'homo sapiens' human being' and so on Smile.
2) The same goes with 'woman' - 'female' and 'man' - 'male'. 'Woman' or 'man' will do.
3) Almost every picture tagged 'writing' is also tagged 'message'. I don't think every writing is a message. Look:

this is a writing and a message both
but

that's just a writing.

What you think about it? Do you have some other suggestions about tagging?
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
i think it is absolutely ok if a snap is tagged " female" "woman" at the same time because it just gives more keyword choices to search for.Smile

Dont forget to take the perspective as searcher Wink

more tags better it is ,unless of course it totally wayofff and misleading Smile Idea
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Your right GO GO..
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Olesniczanin
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
If I were a searcher and there would be no snapshots tagged 'female', I would surely try 'woman'. But ok, let it be the way you wish.

Another thing comes to my mind. We should decide whether to tag reproducions with the last name of the artist or with the first and the last name or else.

Now we have snaps tagged 'dali' and 'salvator dali', 'davinci'(<- as a one word, strange), 'van gogh', 'andy warhol', 'munch' and 'edvard munch', 'mattise', 'toulouse lautrec' (with no hyphen) and so on. No consistency at all. The problem applies especially to French names.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If I were a searcher and there would be no snapshots tagged 'female', I would surely try 'woman'. But ok, let it be the way you wish.


again oles,if u r a searcher wouldnt u be be pleased to get results on the very first try Smile

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Now we have snaps tagged 'dali' and 'salvator dali', 'davinci'(<- as a one word, strange), 'van gogh', 'andy warhol', 'munch' and 'edvard munch', 'mattise', 'toulouse lautrec' (with no hyphen) and so on. No consistency at all. The problem applies especially to French names.


again more tags better it is Smile tag it any ways u want like it can be "leonardodavinci" "davinci" "leonardo" or "vincentvangogh" "vangogh" "van gogh"etc, remember that the searcher hasnt read the rule book few ppl has decided to obey lol but i think right spacing between words is better


but yes i think all reproductions should be tagged as "reproduction" .I would prefer that it is done by the user who reproduced the work.i think its would be nice to be responsible to tell that u recreated something Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I agree 100% with GO GO. Wink
again...
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
and lets also have the option of male and man, along with woman and female etc Smile
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Olesniczanin
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You misunderstood me this time. My point is that we need more consistency. One snapshot is tagged 'van gogh' and other 'vincent van gogh'. This doestn't help the searcher to find all the reproduction of van Gogh works.
GO GO wrote:
remember that the searcher hasnt read the rule book few ppl has decided to obey

You are absolutelly right but if all works were tagged in one way (f.i. first and last name), he would surely get it.
You say the artwoks should be tagged in many ways (van gogh, vincent van gogh and so on) - ok. But in that case ALL the reproductions should be (if you know what I mean), so that after typing 'van gogh' the searcher don't have to type 'vincent van gogh'.

GO GO wrote:
but yes i think all reproductions should be tagged as "reproduction" .I would prefer that it is done by the user who reproduced the work.i think its would be nice to be responsible to tell that u recreated something Smile

of course you are right. That's why I started tagging 'reproduction' the artworks I identify.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
well ok Smile lets hope people will "actually read" tag rule book and if some doesnt then again some alert user will be there to moderate those Wink Laughing
for me tagging is still about more is better
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have to admit tagging infuriates me...

Two in question…
‘eka pada viparita dandasana’ & ‘one foot inverted staff pose’

There has to be some intelligence at work when adding tags to snapshots considering that the person searching has got to type in ‘Exactly’ what has been added as a tag. (There is no soundex or part match available here…?)

This is where tags like the above just seem ridiculous….with no offence intended guys….but come on…think about it

Thank god there is moderation available and hopefully some intelligence at work…
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Let's not make a science out of this. We're all human, right? So let's use what we as humans deem appropriate at the time. We're not librarians and nobody's going to reprimand us if we get tags wrong.

So davinci or Da Vinci - honestly, I don't care. We're not a search engine. At the moment, there's nobody there to search either. Let's focus on that first - get people that actually search and then we might focus on finding ways to get the taggers and searchers on the same page.

Until then - everything's fair in love and war.
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