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Vivianxoxo Maitre d'
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 124 Location: New England baby! Medford Massachusetts
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | we went to war for oil, not to free the iraqi people
Heres what I think;
1.Iraq is NOT Vietnam
2.Get used to fighting over natural resources...its the future
3.We should not leave until Iraq is stable
4.If Iran keeps supplying terrorists (or freedom fighters depends on how you look at it) they should be next.
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i think in fact another motive other than oil for the war was the fact that the extremists over there, who are ruling currently, want to kill EVERYONE not an EXTREMIST muslim.
but THANK YOU!!!! i agree!!!!!! |
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Flying Pancake Busboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 11 Location: Birmingham, England
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Well this is getting heated. Anyways here are my reasons for my statements:
1.Two different eras, Two different situations
2.OK, this is only if we leave it too lae to stop global warming
3.We leave now the country will desend into chaos and civil war
4.Any threat to Colalition soldiers must be expelled. |
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Vivianxoxo Maitre d'
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 124 Location: New England baby! Medford Massachusetts
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:23 am Post subject: |
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we should be targeting IRAN not IRAQ; i wish that this entire war from thw beginning was on iran instead.
iran is helping iraq kill our soldiers. IRAN is the home of the extremists, and it doesnt matter how stable we get iraq, because iran is going to jump in as soon as we leave and break the entire thing down so that they can get control over iraq.
unfortunately, there seems no solution now, because if bush says "no, we need to get the extremists out of iran" then EVERYONE in the U.S. will hate him, because he's getting so close to finally taking our troops out. |
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Roman Centurion Head Waiter
Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 90
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:31 am Post subject: Re: Too Busy Brothing |
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Sure is. Glad I just stay in my room and Broth.
[quote="cryogenic"][quote="Roman Centurion"]There's a war in Iraq?[/quote]
apparently so. confusing isn't it.[/quote] |
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ImmortalMadness Maitre d'
Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 239 Location: California, US
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:49 am Post subject: |
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I do care about the soldiers in Iraq, they are very brave men and women and they should be allowed to come home, not die for an unjust cause.
I do believe Bush is responsible for the deaths of many many people and you can go as far as to say he is a mass murderer.
But should we have engaged in a war in Iraq? NO! The country is much more unstable and our "war on terror" has caused civil war.
George W. Bush has committed many war crimes and deserves punishment. Among many other of his administration's crimes one is engaging in an illegal war of aggression and using fraud to sell the war to congress.
Iran is not a huge threat in comparison to places such as North Korea and China and instead of fighting this unjust war we should be worried about defense and other problems we have at home.
| Roman Centurion wrote: | | Sure is. Glad I just stay in my room and Broth. |
Why don't you stay in your room and broth if you're just going to continue to make stupid comments. We are trying to have a serious discussion while you and others must try to be funny and add something completely brainless. |
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shehtaz huq Waiter
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 33 Location: bangladesh
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: who are you calling a terrorist? |
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| Iran is supplying terrorists. Wow. That's the limit. When America hands over tons of nuclear weapons to Israel to annihilate the Palestinians, that's not terrorism. But when someone is trying to defend his country against a pack of raving wolves, THAT'S terrorism. Everyone is always harping about terrorism in the Middle East, no one seems to bother about who really originated the terrorism, who went and crusaded against the Muslims, who's been keeping a leash on the whole world since the collapse of the Soviet Union. America abuses its power to get what it wants (more precisesly, Bush does). You guys don't live in this part of the world, you don't know how we feel about what Bush is doing to the Muslims. Everytime something goes wrong in this country, we're afraid America might attack us under their banner of 'war against terrorism'. Do you know, we're not that happy about how overly-involved the American ambassador to Bangladesh is in our national politics. We don't want the interferece. We've been abused and bruised first by the British, then by Pakistan. It's time you guys just leave us underveloping countries alone to solve our own problems. And that includes Iran and Iraq. |
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WienerX Waiter
Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 45 Location: milwaukee, wi
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| Vivianxoxo wrote: | | Quote: | | was it worth going to war, spending billions and billions of dollars, and sacrificing the lives of so many young men? ABSOLUTELY NOT! |
that reminds me, if we truly value the lives of our own brave soldiers who fight for us EVERY DAY (which we do, i KNOW that you all do) then we shouldnt be protestig the war when we know it's end is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON because they need our SUPPORT and while complaining over the motives of the war IS your constitutional right, beating up on our president is one hell of a clear message to our troops that "WE DONT CARE WHAT YOURE GOING THROUGH, WE KNOW IT WONT END SOON, BUT STILL WE DONT SUPPORT YOUR MISSION!!!!!!!!!!!"
so thanks to those people who dont support them (no one specific, it goes to anyone reading this) |
it's possible to support the troops and protest the war at the same time. In fact, the best way to support them is "bring them home." That's the only way they won't get themselves blown up for lack of armor, information on the field and funds. Does anyone sincerely believe all of the troops support the war? Also, Dale Earnhart- RIP. He died too young. |
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The Chillis Patron
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:11 am Post subject: Iraq |
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I really think they should get back to their families . the ones who are still back ! |
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Roman Centurion Head Waiter
Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 90
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject: That's my point, IM |
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Exactly my point, IM. You're trying to have a serious discussion about a war on a site that's not about war. I've seen the opinions expressed here; I've seen the same opinions expressed elsewhere.
In my opinion, the whole politics topic should be avoided on this site. You can post about it in the forum all you want, but any conversation in here is divisive and counterproductive.
My point is, why bother?
If you feel that's "trying" to be funny, then you've missed the point. The message is contained within the humour; the humour isn't the message.
Brainless? Well, I never said I was perfect.
By the way, my new avatar is up; see if you can tell who it is. I should have a contest.
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| Roman Centurion wrote: | | Sure is. Glad I just stay in my room and Broth. |
Why don't you stay in your room and broth if you're just going to continue to make stupid comments. We are trying to have a serious discussion while you and others must try to be funny and add something completely brainless. |
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nammiewammie Busboy
Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 13
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: That's my point, IM |
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| Roman Centurion wrote: | Exactly my point, IM. You're trying to have a serious discussion about a war on a site that's not about war. I've seen the opinions expressed here; I've seen the same opinions expressed elsewhere.
In my opinion, the whole politics topic should be avoided on this site. You can post about it in the forum all you want, but any conversation in here is divisive and counterproductive.
My point is, why bother?
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RC, this may not be a site specifically for discussing politics, but what's the point in having a "News & Politics" section if it is not used as such? Considering that TheBroth is an international site, why not gather opinions from other countries? I feel that this was the point of the post in the first place. If it is so 'divisive and counterproductive' we would not have blogs and messageboards (with off-topic matters such as music, religion, and comedy) to be this way. We are not a bunch of priests and nuns, so why bother writing about religion? We are not paid comedians, why bother telling jokes? We are not published authors, why bother writing? Why even have chat or private messges? It all gets in the way of Brothing does it not? To each his own opinion and the right to voice it.
But anyways, back on topic  |
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misschatterbox Maitre d'
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 220 Location: NONE
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: That's my point, IM |
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| Roman Centurion wrote: |
In my opinion, the whole politics topic should be avoided on this site. You can post about it in the forum all you want, but any conversation in here is divisive and counterproductive.
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This is funny because have you seen the other topics on this site? The food/drink topics have no need to be on here but, they haven't been deleted and people still continue to make posts in these sections. Now, I figure that topic of politics is way more important than finding out how to make a smoothie or how much butter to add to your eggs.
As for this quote "but any conversation in here is divisive and counterproductive." Look around you, nothing on here is productive. |
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Holly Head Waiter
Joined: 28 Oct 2006 Posts: 56
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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I think people should just shut up, get along, and stop fighting like adults should. I mean like on Star Trek where they don't have money and just all get along on Earth, they have mentioned a world war3 on star trek, hope it doesn't come down to that.  |
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Roman Centurion Head Waiter
Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 90
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: The Right to an Opinion |
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The war in Iraq is not something that we are going to resolve here at the Broth. As the replies to my post have indicated, each person has the right to their own opinion. I'm sure you will agree that I have the right to mine, as well.
My opinion is that posting on political topics here is divisive and counterproductive. Strictly my opinion, I agree. That's why I said "In my opinion...". If you feel otherwise, then please go ahead and post your own opinion. I didn't tell anybody to stop. I was the one who was told that my opinion was stupid and brainless.
The other threads that are on the Broth may not be relevant to mosaics, but are they as divisive as the war in Iraq? Do you really think people have been listening to each other when they post their thoughts on the war here? Do you see any give and take, any "I didn't think of it that way"?
For me, a smoothie recipe is far more useful here than listening to the same old politics we can get everywhere else.
But that's just my opinion. |
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misschatterbox Maitre d'
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 220 Location: NONE
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: :-D |
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I'm not fighting, just making factual comparisons of the topics on here. Everyone has their opinion, I'm not shutting that idea down. Everyone can make their own statements in the "News & Politics" section and if the section is about Politics guess what? People are going to post about politics.
This is still funny to me...
As for this quote "but any conversation in here is divisive and counterproductive." Look around you, nothing on here is productive |
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Vivianxoxo Maitre d'
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 124 Location: New England baby! Medford Massachusetts
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Iran is not a huge threat in comparison to places such as North Korea and China and instead of fighting this unjust war we should be worried about defense and other problems we have at home. |
DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!!
| Quote: | | Why don't you stay in your room and broth if you're just going to continue to make stupid comments. We are trying to have a serious discussion while you and others must try to be funny and add something completely brainless. |
yeah, i agree, it's MY job to f things up and add stupid, unnecessary commentary.
jesus. ignorance. |
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