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MorningStar
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Looks like I still wasn't clear. Let's recap:
I (still) don't like a multi-move feature where you can move a selection of tiles around while creating the artwork.
However, I like the idea of, after taking a snapshot, moving the finished artwork around the canvas to put it in the final position.
Making the artwork itself shouldn't be affected much. I guess time will tell. And before we all get our panties in a twist, we first have to implement this feature...  |
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Brrr-FrostNZ
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: |
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No you were clear Marcus...
I was just trying (Badly obviously) to indicate where our view / opinion was originating from...
Agree..time will tell...  |
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Tame Swallow
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Im playing catch up here having been asleep overnight!
If the Broth is not a business Markus - what is it?
The principle is the same to me in that you are providing a service and the membership will grow if people like it and use it and feel their views and ideas are taken into consideration. (We are customers after all)
A while back I did feel that you Devs were not always open to suggestions from members. Your idea here of the Broth Labs sounds really good so that we can see and understand your vision. I was meaning on 15th Jan - that it is great now that you are responding to ideas and suggestions. A concern is that it seems that many very gifted members are not contributing as much as they did before - just popping in and out to see what is going on, but not making their great pictures any more or being part of the community. Why do you think that is?
I have always been a great supporter of the Broth as you know, my comments aim to be constructive, and not knocking you guys. It has developed in a lot of interesting and exciting ways and is still doing so.
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Bebi
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| Brrr-FrostNZ wrote: |
Admittedly you don’t have to use the feature. Others could make there own mind up as to whether you did or not. Would that increase or diminish the considered thought about your finished art if they knew or thought you had used final tile mass move adjustment.
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What about a small tag letting people know you've used this feature? This way those who choose not to can still have the kudos of being able to center their artwork without using it... |
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MorningStar
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| Tame Swallow wrote: | | If the Broth is not a business Markus - what is it? |
I think TheBroth could be considered a startup business. Initially most if not all startup businesses just consume a great deal of money and make none. TheBroth is no exception, at least when it comes to the consuming of money part. We're currently beginning to look for investors so that we can bring TheBroth to a level where it can become a viable business. At the present time, you'd be hardpressed to see it as anything else than a very expensive hobby of a hopeful entrepreneur.
| Tame Swallow wrote: | | A while back I did feel that you Devs were not always open to suggestions from members. |
I'm sorry to hear you felt that way. Were there any particular suggestions that you felt fell on deaf ears that should be reconsidered?
| Tame Swallow wrote: | | A concern is that it seems that many very gifted members are not contributing as much as they did before |
Indeed - many quality contributers are now contributing less or have stopped altogether. Honestly, I am not that surprised though. TheBroth really is more fun when there are more people around. I hope we'll soon be able to start a successful publicity campaign so the whole world takes notice.
| Tame Swallow wrote: | | I have always been a great supporter of the Broth as you know, my comments aim to be constructive, and not knocking you guys. |
Very much appreciated! |
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Shehzeen
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I personally feel that a very small issue has been taken a long way and now we r trying to prove things that r quite unimportant. I mean its really simple- either u like the feature or u dont. It doesnt matter whether the broth is a business or not. So lets stick to the topic. If every1 agrees that this feature is necessary then we'll hav it and if they all feel its not needed at all then we wont hav it.
I dont mean to be butting in but it seems sometimes children r needed to solve silly disagreements over petty matters.  |
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PanterA
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: agreed. |
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| Im with shehzeen - This is about a feature not about thebroth being a business or not. take it back to the right level. |
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Tame Swallow
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry you didnt appreciate a business perspective Shehz and ability for members to contribute ideas - it did take the topic off at a tangent, which has now been well aired and thankyou Markus for your reply. Tame |
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Shehzeen
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| It isnt that tame. Just thought it was a bit silly. |
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ImmortalMadness
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:08 am Post subject: |
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| I don't believe it is silly and if you feel it went way off topic why keep bringing it up? |
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Shehzeen
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| Im sorry immortal i meant i felt u guys bickering over the broth being a business or not was silly. Dont worry i wont bring it up again. |
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Tame Swallow
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It was really raising some very important (adult) business issues for the Broth. i.e about customer focus, wilingness for members to raise ideas and that participation of some very good members is dropping off.
Now that is not 'silly' and we were not 'bickering'. That was constructive feedback.
If it doesnt interest you, and it is not at your level, then dont comment. |
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Mama Jean
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| Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: what if... |
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| MorningStar wrote: | | PanterA wrote: | | what if you could move all tiles at a same time. so when you finished a picture and discover that the whole thing is to much to the left or something you could move it to the centre? |
Honestly, I like the idea. Here's what we intending to implement: Just before you confirm to save the snapshot, you can drag the entire artwork around the canvas, of course limited by the outermost tile positions.
Note, this is different from dragging subgroups of multiple tiles around while you create the artwork - that I wouldn't want to support. However, a feature as requested, to place the finished artwork in the final position after the snapshot has been taken - I can't see much harm in that.
I also agree with Brrr - planning ahead for good placement of the tiles is a skill, however, in this case we need to balance what really is for the greater good of all TheBroth users, and I feel that more pleasingly placed artworks are actually better for all of us, even if the proposed feature makes it easier than before to create something amazing.
So - lets hear your voices! What's your opinion on this? |
I could see it both ways. It is possible, you know, with a little patience to rearrange the whole thing manually. I just did that, all the while wishing I had the tool to draw a box around it and move it further down from the top. Going with the theme of simplicity and the skill of proper placement though, maybe only give the privilege of altering placement on the canvas to those who have the patience to do it manually. |
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