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BigTel
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:23 pm    Post subject: Avatars and Adobe Reply with quote
I just changed my Avatar using Adobe Photoshop to create it.
I set the size to 80x80 Pixels.
On completion I saved as Jpeg and chose the 'small file' option.
BUT...I couldn't import it into broth as an avatar because the file size came out around 26Mb!!!

So I imported into paint and did nothing except save as Jpeg.
This time the file was 13Mb????

If your expecting me to explain why this happened...well I don't know.
It was like....woooosh what the heck was that.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
photoshop is just a much more advanced program, all of the adobe saved files seem to be larger whether it be photoshop or acrobat reader
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Avatars and Adobe Reply with quote
BigTel wrote:


So I imported into paint and did nothing except save as Jpeg.
This time the file was 13Mb????
It was like....woooosh what the heck was that.


All you need to make all kind of avatars (ie animated or non animated) is GIMP(ITS FREEEEEE)

http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/ For windows

http://www.gimp.org/

its nearest free thing to adobe photoshop
The file's too large. Try the websites that GOGO posted in another topic.
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Freaky Friday
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Because photoshop rules... Reply with quote
Firstly, you mean kilobytes (kb), right?

I think it has to do with the compression level and image optimization. When using "Save" or "Save As" Photoshop doesn't optimize your file for the internet very well.

When I save images for the internet on Photoshop, I use "Save for Web". It opens up your image in up to 4 split windows and you can tweak and compare the save settings to optimize the image for both resolution and file size.

General rule of thumb, if it's a photo image, save it as a jpg, a medium compression level (~30-45) is sufficient in most cases, IMO. If it's a graphical image, save it as a gif, 16-64 colours is enough for most graphical images (again, IMO).

For a 80x80 pixel image, you should be able to get the file size down to under 4 kb and keep it looking good. Example, my avatar (a jpg) is 2433 bytes (2.433 kb).
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BigTel
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Freaky,
Yes Yes ...all right ..I meant Kb...(oops!)

Thank you for the info...
I shall try those 'save for web' options.
I tend to use AP for photography (a hobby) and so I was always more concerned about picture quality than file size, so I am greatful for the new(for me)information.

Cheers...Terry Very Happy
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BigTel
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Avatars and Adobe Reply with quote
misschatterbox wrote:

All you need to make all kind of avatars (ie animated or non animated) is GIMP(ITS FREEEEEE)
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/ For windows
http://www.gimp.org/
its nearest free thing to adobe photoshop
The file's too large. Try the websites that GOGO posted in another topic.


Thanks for the Info Missy.
I've actually got GIMP, but I have been using Adobe for (a lot of) years so I tend to do just about everything on it even if it isn't always the most suitable.

Something about 'Old Dogs' and 'New Tricks'....lol

Thanks again.
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Freaky Friday
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
BigTel wrote:
Freaky,
Yes Yes ...all right ..I meant Kb...(oops!)


Sorry, didn't mean to sound condescending Embarassed
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GO GO
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
one thing i have noticed that in paint the jpeg compression gives a poor and i mean POooR output.

so just "save as" your image in *.jpg format in photoshop itself Smile....

in GIMP however it lets u decide the quality output you can choose it to be 100% or 1% up to you.....Smile
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Freaky Friday
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
GO GO wrote:
so just "save as" your image in *.jpg format in photoshop itself Smile....


I believe that's what BigTel did at first and got a 26kb sized image.

GO GO wrote:

in GIMP however it lets u decide the quality output you can choose it to be 100% or 1% up to you.....Smile


Actually, Photoshop's "Save As" does let you choose the quality of the output from 0 to 12. It's "Save for Web" also allows for quality output of 0 to 100% (for jpgs).

I've tried GIMP before briefly, but I didn't like it (for one thing, the jpg compression was better on Photoshop). It's still a very good piece of software, especially for a freebie, but I much prefer Photoshop, but to each his/her own.
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