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BATBYGOBSTOPL

unfair exile

18 Oct 06 in TheBroth

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Today i went into a public room (think it was mosaic) and was quietly making my own picture. It got wrecked and I told the wrecker off in the chat window. The next thing that happened was i got exiled by the wrecker and their little clique of mates.

This was really annoying as i have never even recieved - from anyone before. ARGH stupid ppl!

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  1. xreko
    18 Oct 06
    They're just jealous of your awesome mosaic skills!
  2. thirty-seven
    18 Oct 06
    I can't believe they haven't been banned yet. Has nobody reported them?
  3. BigTel
    19 Oct 06
    From the fact you were able to tell the wrecker off I suppose it was a registered member...have you PM'd the devs with his username?
  4. rhain
    19 Oct 06
    yes yes yes all reported... so for my awesome mosaic skills...i doubt that was the reason
  5. ImmortalMadness
    19 Oct 06
    yeah, it sucked i came in the room right as they were exiling him. That group of members likes to exile people and call people vulgar names.
  6. Jesse
    19 Oct 06
    haha, this is funny. Take it easy, I bet they are a gang or something.
  7. Tame Swallow
    19 Oct 06
    maddening - dont let them put you off.
  8. MorningStar
    19 Oct 06
    You may not like to hear this, but as I've explained today to many of those that have commented above, the social consensus system in the public room is not meant to tell the bad guys from the good guys. It is meant to give those that have been in a room longer more power, and it is meant to allow the majority in a room to "gang up" if you will, on the minority.

    Most of the time, the majority of people in a room are the "good guys", but not always. Sometimes the "bad guys" are the majority. In each public room, the majority vote rules.

    From my point of view, the social consensus system works perfectly fine, and I am not sure that any ban-able offense has occurred. If they harass others, then that's a violation for sure, such as abusive language etc. However, simply falling victim of a majority vote exiling, that's not reason yet to report anyone.
  9. MorningStar
    19 Oct 06
    Soon we'll make it easy to report offensive users, and you'll be able to indicate what went wrong with only few clicks, so we can look up the chat logs, in case you indicate abusive language. We'll have room rewind and replay, and we'll be able to look at exactly what happened in terms of tile dragging too.

    Yep, Big Broth-er is coming, big time, and it will make reporting offensive users, snapshots, blog entries or comments and any subsequent dispute resolution trivially easy.
  10. MorningStar
    19 Oct 06
    Coming back to the topic of rhain being exiled: This is never a nice experience, but it has to be said that visiting the public room when it's full of people that have been dragging for a while can be akin to trying to conquer a sandbox full of bullies. You're not likely going to have a lot of fun there. But - sandboxes are public, and the bullies will leave again too.

    Somehow I think that there's enough rooms now for everyone, and we certainly now have access control and privacy options that would satisfy even the most demanding "brothers" amongst us. ;-)

    PS. I just noticed there is a limit on the comment length! Sorry for making 3 comments in a row. We'll have to fix that! :)
  11. Jesse
    19 Oct 06
    I think you are creating too many features which will shorten the user's elbowroom. For example the new friends only feature: I don't like it. If somebody want's to create a picture with only a few selected guys, he or her can lock his room and use a passwort. Today I found two nice unfinished artworks in the active room gallery. I have tried to continue the work of the roomowner, but wasn't able to drag a tile, because I am not his or hers friend. It's absurd.
  12. MorningStar
    19 Oct 06
    Jesse, sorry to say, but what you're reporting is a demonstration just how good the friends-rooms feature really is. In the past, you would have stared at a great big lock. This time round, you actually could see what was in it, and possibly chat with the room owner, or in his absence, send a message and/or friend request. Absurd? Let's see what you wrote not long ago...
    http://www.thebroth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4357#4357
  13. Jesse
    20 Oct 06
    hehe, you got me. No, that was before I try to enter the both friends-only rooms. I was disappointed, 'cause I wasn't able to drag their tiles. That's the reason why I have change my mind. You know, when I've postet my feedback, which you have linked above, I havn't regocnize that the new friends-only feature will build more borders.
  14. Jesse
    20 Oct 06
    I can understand your opinion, Markus. Don't you think there are enough possibilities to secure a room? Look, you can hide your room, you can lock your room, you can allow users only to enter or friends only to enter your room. I wonder what newbies will thinking when they see all the different systems which excludes them. I think it is just too much.
  15. MorningStar
    20 Oct 06
    Hopefully the newbies think "wow these are great room options, I think I'm going to sign up..." :-)

    It's not building more borders, it's removing borders. Fact is: many members that in the past saw as only option to lock their rooms and hide them, can now gladly let their friends drag tiles.
  16. Jesse
    20 Oct 06
    well, uhm ... I already mind that. Good point, of course. But I couldn't cotton on to this new friends-only feature. So, what remains to say? I was a bit overhasty to praise that feature.
  17. Roman Centurion
    27 Oct 06
    Wow, what a lot of comments in Rhain's blog.
    I have to agree that some things can be off-putting at first, but seeing what some people are doing is a good incentive to make friends, and make mosaics.